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nedelja, 19 oktober 2008
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 Za lajšanje šoferskih težav, povezanih z mrzlimi zimskimi jutri, so izumili dodatne grelce vozil, ki se zaženejo določen čas pred prihodom premraženega lastnika in tako ustvarijo prijetno toplo okolje. Drug učinek je segret motor, kar pomeni lažji zagon, bolj miren tek in manjšo porabo goriva. Najbolj poznan proizvajalec je Webasto, Saab pa je vgrajeval malo manj poznane (a nič slabše) Ebersp



Princip delovanja

Grelec je bil nekaj let standardna oprema dizelskih 9-3 (YS3D), vgrajevali so tip Hydronic D3W Z. Delovanje je precej podobno peči na olje :), saj v njem zgoreva nafta, nastala toplota pa se predaja hladilni tekočini ki potem kroži po običajnih poteh.

Osnovna oprema je bil sam grelec, ki se je vklopil pri ustrezno nizkih zunanjih temperaturah po zagonu motorja in je pomagal k hitrejšemu ogrevanju vozila med vožnjo. Navzven se je kazal z visokofrekvenčnimi zvoki in oblaki dima :).

Za doplačilo si je bilo mogoče omisliti polno funkcionalen grelec, ki je opisan v članku. Ključni dodatni komponenti sta obtočna črpalka in krmilni rele (na slikah obarvana rdeče in rumeno), ki omogočata delovanje grelca brez prižganega motorja. Tako se segreva hladilna tekočina, ob tem pa teče ventilator prezračevalnega sistema vozila in prijetno ogreva notranjost vozila. Pri ročni klimi je potrebno temperaturo nastaviti na najbolj toplo, tok zraka pa usmeriti proti šipi, medtem ko vozilo z avtomatsko klimatsko napravo za vse nastavitve poskrbi samo.

Funkcionalnost grelca mora biti vklopljena s Tech2 ("tester"), kjer se lahko izbere vžiganje na uro, glede na zunanjo temperaturo po zagonu motorja ali pa se popolnoma izklopi.

Postopek nastavitve časa vklopa je sledeč: pri ugasnjenem motorju pritisnemo poljubno tipko na SID-u, nakar se izpiše "Heater off". Na izbiro so trije časi vklopa in ročni zagon, ki je takojšen. Med možnostmi se prestavlja s tipkama + in -. Na enem od časovnih programov se pritisne in zadrži Set, SID izpusti kratek pisk in ura prične utripati. S + in – se nastavi željen čas ter potrdi s Set. Grelec potem deluje ali eno uro ali do ročne ustavitve ali do zagona motorja. 

 

 



Shematski prikaz

 
1. Vetrnica za vpih zraka
2. Motor vetrnice
3. Toplotni izmenjevalec
4. Izgorevalna komora
5. Žarilna svečka
6. Senzor ognja
7. Senzor temperature
8. Senzor pregretja
9. Krmilna elektronika
10. Dovod svežega zraka
11. Izpuh
12. Črpalka goriva
13. Filter
14. Varovalka (25 A) - nahaja se na poziciji 15 med varovalkami v motornem prostoru
15. Konektor

Grelec se zažene pri zunanji temperaturi pod 5 °C ter temperaturi hladilne tekočine pod 80 °C. Dodaten pogoj je vsaj 10 l goriva v tanku. Ob porastu temperature nad 85 °C se izgorevanje začasno ustavi, obtočna črpalka pa še teče. Pregretje je najpogosteje posledica okvare obtočne črpalke, pomeni pa temperaturo višjo od 125 °C. Takrat se grelec trajno izklopi.

Postavitev komponent

Grelec se nahaja na levi strani vozila na požarni steni (označen z zeleno). Pod njim sta dve cevi: krajša na skrajnem levem delu je namenjena zajemu zraka, daljša na sredinski strani pa vodi v izpuh, ki se skriva pod vozilom.

Obtočna črpalka je na sredini požarne stene (označena z rdečo), nad njo je še rele (rumeno). Črpalka goriva se skriva poleg filtra nafte pod tankom. Pritrjena je z najbolj neumnim načinom, kar sem jih do sedaj videl: dva vijaka med seboj speta z debelim kosom gume! Ob prvem poskusu odvijanja matic se guma seveda strga, nakar preostane preklinjanje ob odvijanju preostanka vijaka. Na sliki je filter nafte spuščen, črpalka je okrogla stvar ob njem.


Razdiranje

Grelec je pritrjen z enim vijakom zgoraj ter na cevi pod njim (puščice). Vsako cev drži objemka s težko dostopnim vijakom. Za odstranitev grelca je potrebno zrahljati izpušno cev, zajem zraka pa se lahko odstrani kasneje, ko je grelec že zunaj. Izdiranje zahteva kar malo sile in telovadbe med vsemi kabli…

Seveda ga je pred odstranjevanjem potrebno odklopiti iz tokokroga hladilne tekočine. Cev, ki iz sistema vodi na grelec, se lahko mirno preveže na obtočno črpalko; če se bo avto dlje časa vozil tak, priporočam, da se cev z vezico nekam fiksira, sicer se neprestano drgne po krmilnem mehanizmu. Odklapljanje dovoda goriva in priključnega kabla ne bi smelo biti težavno , svetujem pa zaščito prostega konca cevi za gorivo, da vanjo ne zaidejo smeti.

Odstranjen grelec izgleda nekako takole:

Iz njega visita dva kabla: en služi povezavi z avtom, drug je bil v mojem primeru zataknjen v najbližjo špranjo, ne da bi bil kam priklopljen. Glede na to, da sta bila priključka v njem zalita z neko umazanijo in očitno nikoli priklopljena, se nisem sekiral zaradi njega. Sicer grelec omogoča diagnostiko preko posebnega »testerja« in mogoče je ta kabel namenjen podatkovni povezavi?

Najprej je potrebno odstraniti pokrova, pod enim se skriva vetrnica ventilatorja, pod drugim pa temperaturna senzorja. Modre žice vodijo na senzor temperature, rdeče pa na senzor pregretja.

V naslednjem koraku se odstrani pokrov leve strani (kjer je priključni kabel). Držijo ga štirje vijaki, takoj zatem pa zelo kratek kabel, ki povezuje notranje dele. V pokrovu se namreč skriva vsa elektronika grelca, ki je zalita s plastiko, tako da se ne da stikati po njej.

Zgornja puščica označuje svečko: nanjo sta privita dva kabla, nato se svečka odvije. Pod njo je senzor ognja, ki je prav tako privit v ohišje. Odvije se veliko lažje, če se njegovi žici iztakneta iz priključka ter se lahko prosto vrtita.

Razdiranje se lahko še nadaljuje: sedaj gre grelec na dva dela. V enem ostane motorček z vetrnico, v drugem pa izgorevalna komora. Med njima je precej krhko tesnilo, zato je potrebna precejšnja previdnost.

Končno se lahko izgorevalna komora potegne iz ohišja. Tukaj se nabere precej saj in če smo razdrli do tu, se jih splača očistiti, saj precej motijo prenos toplote.

Teoretično se lahko iz ohišja potegne še toplotni izmenjevalec (del z rebri, leva slika), vendar se tega nisem lotil, ker bi si kvečjemu nakopal težave s tesnjenjem. Prav tako nisem iz avta odstranjeval obtočne črpalke, ker je normalno delovala. Snemanje črpalke goriva je tudi nesmiselno, saj je kot že omenjeno zelo neumno pritrjena, poleg tega se delovanje lahko preizkusi s črpalko na mestu. Deluje v pulznem načinu, tako da v primeru okvare merjenje napetosti na njenem konektorju ne da uporabnih podatkov. Edini učinek je polivanje dragocenega goriva .


Testiranje posameznih komponent

Tako, ko so vse komponente na mizi, se lahko prične bolj natančno delo, za kar se rabi vsaj multimeter, če že ne malo več elektronske opreme. Najpogostejše napake so sicer okvara obtočne črpalke ali žarilne svečke. Seveda je pred vsakim testiranjem (oziroma že pred razdiranjem grelca) smiselno preveriti varovalko, ki se nahaja v škatli poleg ostalih varovalk v motornem prostoru.

Svečka: priklopi se jo na 8 V, po 25 sekundah mora biti tok skoznjo 8,5 A +/- 1 A. Ker nima vsakdo vira napetosti, ki omogoča 10 A toka pri 8 V, zadostuje tudi domač test: svečka se za kratek čas priklopi na akumulator in mora zažareti. Pri tem je potrebno uporabiti kable z dovolj velikim presekom (vsaj 1.5 mm2) ter svečko držati s kleščami, ker se peklensko segreje. Tudi čas priklopa naj ne bo predolg, ker je deklarirana za uporabo na 8 V.

Črpalka goriva: upornost cca 10 Ω. Funkcija se testira pri vgrajenem grelcu: cevka dovoda goriva se sname in usmeri v graduirano posodico (najbolj uporabna je 10 ml brizga). Slabo minuto po zagonu grelca prične črpalka delovati in se samodejno ugasne po 90 s. V tem času mora načrpati 7 – 8 ml goriva. Odstopanja navzgor ali navzdol pomenijo napako.

Senzor temperature in pregretja: pri temperaturi 20 °C je upornost vsakega dobrih 10 kΩ. Vrednosti nad 2 MΩ ali pod 50 Ω pomenijo okvaro tipala.

Senzor ognja: pri 0 °C ima upornost 1 kΩ, pri 20 °C pa približno 1,1 kΩ. Vrednosti nad 3,4 kΩ ali pod 50 Ω pomenijo okvaro.

Obtočna črpalka: pri neposrednem priklopu na 12 V se mora pognati, še lažje jo je stestirati z grelcem v avtu, saj se vklopi takoj ob začetku gretja.

Testiranje sistema v vozilu

Grelec se vklopi pri zunanji temperaturi pod 5 °C. Ena možnost je počakati zimske temperature, vendar je delo v mrazu prstom in telesu neprijazno. Druga možnost je avto prepričati, da je zima že tu, za kar je potrebno zamenjati senzor zunanje temperature (pod sprednjo tablico) z ustreznim uporom. Uporabil sem 20 kΩ potenciometer, ki je pri nastavitvi blizu maksimalne vrednosti povzročil občutek –6 °C.

Ob zagonu se ventilator v grelcu zažene in kmalu tudi obstane, požene se pa obtočna črpalka, kar se jasno sliši. Čez nekaj 10 s prične delovati črpalka goriva; izpod zadnjega dela vozila se sliši vedno hitrejše ritmično udarjanje (črpalka deluje impulzno). Še nekaj 10 sekund in ventilator v grelcu prične pospeševati, če je vse po sreči pa kmalu zadeva tudi vžge in izpod avta se prične kaditi dim . Če je cev od črpalke goriva do grelca iz kakršnegakoli vzroka prazna, bo zagon neuspešen in čez nekaj sekund sledi ponoven poskus. Po desetih neuspelih zaporednih zagonih se grelec onemogoči, verjetno ga pa pozdravi odklop napajanja.

Želim vam veliko toplih občutkov v prihajajoči zimi!


Komentarjev (51)
1. 20-10-2008 05:42
Živjo, 
 
mogoče malo neumno vprašanje. Ali ima to zadevo tudi 9-3 model, letnik '03, 2.2 diesel? 
Ali je to dodatna oprema,imam pa avtomatsko klimo, 
 
lp, a
godfather
2. 20-10-2008 12:57
Mene pa zanima, ali bi lahko na c900 uporabil grelec z 9-3? Kje so kritične točke pri tovrstni vgradnji; je poleg problema s prostorom še kak drug večji zadržek? 
 
Sicer pa lep prispevek! 
 
LP Grega
Grega
3. 20-10-2008 17:33
@Godfather: to je dodatna oprema, poglej pod havbo če ga imaš. 
 
@Grega: težko... Grelec je povezan z elektroniko vozila, saj se čas vklopa nastavi preko SID, rabi pa tudi podatek o zunanji temperaturi, ki ga pobere iz avtomobilovega senzorja.
Boris
4. 21-10-2008 16:25
Včwraj in danes sem delal teste in mi ni nič delovalo. Temperaturo sem nastavil na -6 C in ni bilo nobenega odziva. Pozimi sem slišal, da mi je grelec deloval. Ne vem pa, katera varovalka je za delovanje sistema. Prav tako pri mojem avtu nisem opazil škatlice z rumenim relejem. Če ne bo nič, bom pač odprl celotni sistem, kot je nazorno prikazano zgoraj. Tudi v tem trenutku čakam, če se bo grelec le prebudil. Avto je že skoraj čisto hladen. Mogoče je problem tu, ker ni popolnoma ohlajen. Malo še bom počakal...
Miran96
5. 21-10-2008 19:30
Rele je v resnici siv, rumeno sem ga pobarval zaradi lažjega prikaza. Nekje mora biti... Motor mora biti hladnejši od 80 st., kar se hitro doseže. 
 
Varovalka je v škatli poleg akumulatorja, za točno lokacijo pa pogledam jutri.
Boris
6. 22-10-2008 15:13
Update: varovalka je na poziciji 15.
Boris
7. 23-10-2008 17:56
Hvala. Kolikor sem videl, je ta varovalka cela, torej ne preostane nič drugega, da vse skupaj odprem. Mi je pa čudno, da sistem ne da nobenega glasu od sebe. Pa tudi obtočne črpalke ni na mestu, kjer je tvoja oz. je ne vidim nikjer. Prav tako je nima kolega v svoji 9-3-ki. Čudno.
Miran96
8. 26-10-2008 18:26
s katerega avtomobila je grelec o katerem tece beseda?
enemy
9. 26-10-2008 19:53
Star 9-3 (YS3D), dizel.
Boris
10. 26-10-2008 20:01
mislim da imava zelo podobna avtomobila (nkeje omenjeno v prejsnji temi) moram preveriti ce ga imam. 
 
kako pa se vklopi na sid-u?
enemy
11. 11-11-2008 19:55
Skoraj en mesec je ta dober članek že gor pa sem komaj sedaj uspel preveriti na svojem avtu če ima ta opisani grelec. 
In kaj ugotovim? 
Ima ga, ima! 
Zato mi ni bilo nikoli jasno zakaj govorijo o dizlaših, da rabi celo večnost, da začne pihati topli zrak v kabinski prostor! 
Hvala Boris za razsvetljenje!
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kako se vklopi na SID-u?
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